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Nicole Daedone
June 25, 2011, 11:10 pm
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Now I’m a major skeptic and remained skeptical throughout this, especially as I get irritated by generalisations about female sexuality so I am not without criticisms of this… Yet something in Nicole Daedone’s TED Talk “Orgasm: The Cure for Hunger in the Western Woman” touched a nerve deep down inside me and towards the end of the talk, I admit that I was crying. I’m going to need some time to process what that was about but meanwhile, I intend to get ahold of her book Slow Sex: The Art and Craft of the Female Orgasm.

It will be turned on women and those who dare to stroke us who will actually change the world by feeding this desire for connection that we all have. ~ Nicole Daedone

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In hetero sex, men are encouraged to desire while pretty much ignoring a woman’s desire. and as everyone knows it used to even be normal for men to stop when they’re done. when your aroused by being desired, the recognition of your desire is important for a fulfilling mutual connection. Otherwise your just granting or denying a man sexual access to you, that isn’t a mutually fulfilling connection.

It’s covered quite well by parts 2 and 3 of her 3 part round table discussion
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db4V2FpPD9M&feature=related
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGYRq8iSiMQ&NR=1
Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6JZngOIVK8&feature=related

“A man invites you into sex rather than saying this is my sex and now I’m gonna go out and find it.” “your never taught what to do when you want it”

Comment by Jake

As a man I’d go further. If as well as being honoured that we’re granted sexual access to a woman and aroused by the possibilities of what we can do with her, if also we’re actually sexually aroused by her desire for us, that completes the circle of desire and properly creates the connection Nicole is talking about.

Comment by Jake

Did you ever get to read Sex at Dawn? I think reading and applying it will really truly make Nicole’s words have their evolutionary, biological and social and spiritual context… because it discusses so many times how it is cultures where WOMEN are able to be sexually free, to be playful and flirtatious, also where women can be openly sexual and have zero shame in taking their NATURAL need to desire and be desired… that’s when cultures thrive, when hunger is not an issue, where men and women alike, in both humans and bonobos, are provided for and where social order is maintained. While his primary argument is about monogamy, in every case where society is thriving, FEMALES are empowered and ultimately in control of their sexuality, also able to arouse men and even reward them–with polygamous exchanges with other wives, for instance–for literally addressing physical hunger (hunting, that is). While Nicole speaks of sexual hunger, the need to connect is as clear in our need to connect sexually AND to connect with such basics as food; from sharing nursing duties to sharing food to sharing sexual pleasure, ultimately, we thrive when we connect. Now, we’re elevated to sharing things far more aesthetically oriented, sure, but even in sharing art and science, we’re ultimately always trying to come back to our most primitive, basic needs and desires. Advancement in industrial/scientific/artistic fields is geared at an external way of being happier, more at peace, fulfilled inside and out… but what we’re scared to admit is that drugs and art and gadgets, while being able to aid in our quest for fulfillment, are very poor, piss-poor, substitutes for another human being or even several humans filling our many tastes, our many wants. We love a variety of foods, art styles, etc… yet we insist on one person being everything… makes no sense.

What she discusses with the “your labia are coral…” part is so fundamental to primates–females DO become vibrant red when they are aroused, and to revisit that idea (of when *WE* as females are hot, bothered, and frantic for sexual connection) is something we have to RETURN to as a society. The strange thing personally is that I have always EXPECTED to be fascinating and unique and pleased (and always have been by partners, from my first through my most recent)… I’ve been horribly put off by men seeking their own wants. Maybe that’s why detail-oriented nerds/artists are all I’m lustful about, men who literally find my organs beautiful, my taste delectable, my scent irresistible when I’m both aroused and, even more so when I’m pleased… people who are in tune with that are the ones who are dangerous for me; the rest are “meh” to “ughhh” so they pose no threat. Funny enough, this picky nature made some less in-tune people call me a prude. Sure, STDs and such are a huge concern so I don’t just go swinging with anyone, but for the one in particular who thought me prudish yet listened when I said “LEARN” how to kiss me and touch me etc… he figured out the delicate gentle and too-pure persona was, while still genuine, only a tiny piece. Best sex of HIS life and the only person he really FELL for and called his GF; the rest, his early to bed and eager to please (without being insistent on being pleased) were no challenge and got very quickly, well, boring. I think the partners really miss out when THEY aren’t engaged, too! If a female becomes an object, something that is serving a role/purpose, fulfilling a duty, they are quick to tune out of their OWN duties. I’ve never had anyone NOT take it slow because I’ve never given the opportunity. When I had to–for school–be a sex therapist for half a year, that was probably the top advice I ever gave… and even then, I was a virgin (a virgin who’d had plenty of orgasms, but still a virgin by standard definitions or even “oral included” ones). I blame (meaning I thank!) my mom giving me sex education books when I was 7-10 and my neighbor for teaching me when I was 5 or so where my parts were–no shame, just 2 kids playing happily together with a “never tell parents” agreement once we left the woods, clothing intact. Sex is taken WAY too seriously. It’s only a serious matter when it is done for the wrong reasons and/or without the right preparations be the prep maturity or condoms or a dozen other things!

Comment by Laura (Seattle)

I went and watched the videos Jake posted (I liked them despite it being a bit too “ooh I like that, oohhh that is wonderful” over-affirming and scripted/prompted (certainly wasn’t spontaneous conversation, but the pandora idea is solid!) and wanted to add this one–it jumps around but I think you may relate most when she briefly expresses how your response–even anger–is the RIGHT response so long as you are authentic… the idea is that we compartmentalize our sexuality as either good or bad, like most things, without appreciating subtle nuances, without being mindful of the whole experience and how spiritual a sexual connection and the trust required to engage in it can be, how anger or ferocity isn’t the WRONG response as we are too often told, how the entire spectrum of emotion and being should be honored as legitimate, authentic, and good pieces of ourselves to enjoy and to grow from, too. Screaming, yelling, giggling… they are all good and all b/c we are connected to everyone all the time. EVERYone around us is in some way altering our heart beats, the smell and “taste” of the air we breathe, etc… From what I can decipher, this is really founded in basic yoga principles/philosophy, repackaging it in a way that makes more sense than the often kooky sounding modern day “shamans.” I like that she is breaking things down in simple terms for everyday people–instead of, as she mentions somewhere else, selling you a “cookbook” full of instructions, her goal is teaching you how to cook to start, sort of a decoding of sexual expression/desire.

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